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    On today’s podcast, I get to interview Alex Rosenblat, a researcher from the Data & Society Research Institute.  Now that name may seem familiar because in addition to spending the last 9 months studying how Uber drivers interact with the driver app, Alex has also published several very popular articles on things like Uber’s phantom cabs and a technical paper on the subject of driver control.

    I often like to joke that there’s no one who spends more time talking to drivers than I do, but Alex definitely gives me a run for my money and it’s interesting to hear about what she found during her research.  We touch on a lot of different topics during the show but I think it made for a great interview.

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    RSG030: Alex Rosenblat On How Much Control Uber Really Has Over Its Drivers

    RSG030: Alex Rosenblat On How Much Control Uber Really Has Over Its Drivers

    If you’d like to read a transcript of this podcast, please click here

    Intro

    • Today’s podcast is all about Uber and its control over drivers
    • Guest Alex Rosenblat works at the Data & Society Research Institute
    • She, and her colleague, studied how Uber drivers interact with their apps
    • Special thanks to our sponsor, Stride Health – Stride offers your own personal advisor if you have specific, unique questions related to health care, the insurance marketplace, and more

    Interview with Alex Rosenblat

    • Researcher & Technical Writer at the Data & Society Research Institute
    • Conducted a study, along with Luke Stark, on Uber drivers and their interactions with their apps
    • Interested in this topic because of drivers’ entrepreneurship as well as all the potential opportunities for people to hail drivers, unlike the traditional system we have now
    • Alex wrote the popular Uber’s Phantom Cabs article

    Research on Uber

    • Researched claims made about Uber’s algorithms regarding supply and demand
    • 9 month study on these supply and demand claims and their effect on driver behavior
    • Uber may have more control over drivers than we think
    • Uber is not one entity – messaging can be incoherent from city to city
    • This is done on purpose and very strategically

    Driver Communication with Uber

    • Community Service Representatives were primarily contacted via email, rarely in-person
    • CSRs responses seemed automated and unhelpful, clear that CSRs were not drivers themselves
    • Inclination is to be loyal to the company, but messaging is consistently about Uber as a “platform” and not as an employer
    • Rating system provokes anxiety among drivers, could encourage bias among passengers

    The Relationship Between Uber & Drivers

    • Drivers rarely refer to themselves as “Uber partners” – just not terminology they use like Uber might want them to
    • How drivers see themselves can have huge implications for Uber
    • Uber actually has more control than you would think – Uber contract, for example

    Advice for Drivers

    • Be aware that you don’t have “total freedom” like Uber wants you to think
    • Uber asks a lot of drivers and things are very ambiguous – things like surge pricing, for example
    • Use forums as much as you can – forums will help drivers answer a lot of questions
    • Keep logs of the trips you make
    • Important to protect yourself, but be aware of wire-tapping laws!

    Future of Ridesharing Work

    • Uber’s main problem is future lawsuits
    • These lawsuits will have implications for Uber’s control over drivers and could end up changing the Uber system entirely
    • Technical changes with input from drivers
    • Drivers do need more of a voice in upcoming changes
    • Want to share your experiences with Alex Rosenblat? Contact her here!

    Outro

    • Uber does have a lot of control over drivers right now, without a lot of input from drivers
    • Uber can shift accountability to passengers with the rating system
    • Going forward, it will be interesting to see what direction Uber takes in driver relationships
    • Thank you to Alex Rosenblat and Luke Stark for their research, and thank you to Alex for sharing a condensed version of her research with us
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    Show Notes

    Stride Health

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    -Harry @ RSG

    Harry Campbell

    Harry Campbell

    I'm Harry, the owner and founder of The Rideshare Guy Blog and Podcast. I used to be a full-time engineer but now I'm a rideshare blogger! I write about my experience driving for Uber, Lyft, and other services and my goal is to help drivers earn more money by working smarter, not harder.

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