I recently listened to an interview on the Pivot Schooled podcast with Uber CEO Dara Khosrowshahi – it was a very good interview! Today’s episode is going to be a little different – I’m going to play parts of the Pivot Schooled podcast and provide my comments. Hopefully, you like this different format – let me know either way!

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    Intro to This Episode

    • Scott from Pivot Schooled is not a fan of the gig economy!
    • How could this go?
    • This was a combo interview – previous interview also commented on gig economy
    • This episode was recorded pre-Uber potential shutdown in  California

    How Do Drivers Feel About AB5?

    • Some people prefer to pretend drivers don’t understand questions about AB5
    • Those questions are simple – do you want to be an employee or IC?
    • Don’t pretend like the drivers ‘don’t understand’
    • Govt bailed out gig workers – drivers aren’t seeing the flaws of the gig economy

    Income Inequality and Uber

    • Scott’s figures for driver income sounds about right – there is variability though
    • Total agreement on this point – in the real world, employee-jobs don’t offer a ton of flexibility
    • Dara knows a lot about the driver experience

    Uber’s Ultimatum

    • Uber and Lyft have known since January that they need to classify drivers as employees
    • Didn’t have to happen like this, even though Uber/Lyft did get a stay
    • Doesn’t agree when Uber says things like this, or ‘the market sets the rate’ – not quite true

    Acquisitions & Reader Questions

    • Discusses Postmates acquisition and, in general, profitability of delivery
    • Driverless cars? Very hard tech to build
    • Dara might be saying they messed up – there’s no way this is close
    • 3-5 years until you begin to see anything even basic


    • Fun format – thanks for sticking around and taking a listen!
    • What do you think of the format of this episode? Like it or not? Let me know!

    Show Notes

    Harry Campbell

    Harry Campbell

    I'm Harry, the owner and founder of The Rideshare Guy Blog and Podcast. I used to be a full-time engineer but now I'm a rideshare blogger! I write about my experience driving for Uber, Lyft, and other services and my goal is to help drivers earn more money by working smarter, not harder.