RSG142: Nick Katz on Benefits for Uber and Lyft Drivers [Kover]

Many people get into the gig economy for flexibility – flexibility of time, ability to earn, etc. But it’s clear that the gig economy also leaves something to be desired: namely, benefits. Today, I’ll be talking with Nick Katz of Kover, a portable benefits company for gig workers. 

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Intro to Nick Katz

  • Head of Development at Kover
  • Spent most of his career making partnerships around the gig economy
  • Worked at EventBrite and almost every major gig marketplace
  • Kover focuses on providing a financial safety net for gig workers

What Does Kover Do for Gig Workers?

  • Kover is an income protection product
  • If you get into an accident or deactivated, Kover replaces the income you would have earned
  • Bridge gap and prevent gig workers from going into debt
  • For drivers wrongly deactivated, Kover also works with LegalRideshare

Origins of Kover

  • Originally began with the idea of a risk-sharing platform
  • Not hundreds of millions of dollars
  • Average drivers typically have around $1000 for a rainy day
  • However, this likely wouldn’t cover a month of not being able to work

How Does Kover Work?

  • Integrates with gig companies – public AI
  • Drivers link their accounts, which allows Kover to validate income and remain HIPAA compliant
  • Better to sign up before you need it!
  • You can sign up after you’ve been deactivated and Kover will send a deactivation letter for you

Employee vs. IC Debate

  • Speaking on his behalf, there should be another type of employee classification
  • Gig workers do it all – actively seeking clients, manage their own HR
  • Drivers and delivery workers outsource some of this to the apps themselves
  • Regulations have not caught up with technology

If Drivers Became Employees, How Would it Affect Kover?

  • Working on this question right now!
  • Working with different groups in order to scale Kover up
  • ‘Third way’ of employment would be most beneficial
  • Bottom line: a new category of gig worker must work for the drivers themselves

Outro

  • Big thanks to Nick Katz for coming on the podcast and sharing his take on the employee vs contractor debate
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Show Notes